Prog and Deleuze

2007 March 31
by Alex

And talking of prog, the guitarist of French Fripp influenced prog band Heldon, Richard Pinhas, collaborated with Gilles Deleuze a number of times throughout his career. Pinhas’ buddy and one time teacher Gilles first pops up to do actually-really-great vocals on the classic ‘Ouais Marchais mieux qu’en 68 (Le voyageur)’ on the first Heldon album, Electronique Guérilla – indeed, many of Pinhas’ solo albums pariticularly – Event and Repetitions, De l’Un et du Multiple, Rhizosphere etc – have names with Deleuzian resonances. He also turns up on the album L’Ethique in 1988. More recently, following Deleuze’s unfortunate encounter with that window, Pinhas has produced a three-part series of tribute albums called Schizotrope, featuring French cyber-punk author Maurice Dantec reading extracts from the canon and even some unpublished stuff over the top of spiraling guitars. Samples can be found over at Deleuze Studies, the second one being rather lovely, though with scary vocals. Even as recently as 2001, a Deleuze text is read at the start of the Heldon disc ‘Only Chaos is Real’. In addition to all this musical action, Pinhas turns is a trained philosopher and something of a Deleuze scholar – he keeps a French homepage that collects Deleuzian writings in various languages, mp3 recordings of him speaking, scans of manuscripts and partial listings of his musical engagements with him. He is also writing a book of Nietzsche and Music and one on time and repitition. Some fairly interesting things are said in a recent interview:

This is a kind of tribute to Deleuze you’re doing with Les Larmes de Nietzsche ?
Yes, indeed. I believe that if he had written another book, it would have been about music. And we had been working together on concepts – the end of the ritornello for instance in A Thousand Plateaus : Capitalism and Schizophrenia or when Deleuze alludes to the concept of the idea-synthesizer in The Logic of Sense. He had asked me for some information about digital analogy, about sound-synthesizers and ideas synthesizers. Then, with all his genius, he did what he did.

It was said that Deleuze didn’t have any equipment to listen to music ?
It’s not true, although he didn’t have much equipment, he would listen to music, mostly to Piaf or Ravel, who were his favourites.

How did the recording of the track Le Voyageur with him go ?
I asked him if he were interested and he answered that we would at least have a go. So I suggested some texts by Nietzsche that he cut out and then we found ourselves in a studio, 30 kilometres away from Paris, where there were Jean-François Lyotard, Gilles’wife, Fanny and another friend who was a philosopher in Vincennes, Cyril Ryjik. Five thousand copies of the track were eventually released and distributed for free under the title Ouais Marchais, Mieux qu’en 68, with our band Schizo and then there was a second version in the first album by Heldon. This very first version has turned into a kind of classic, it’s a bit of an odd destiny because in the beginning this track was made within 3 hours, just for fun ? And to put an end to the story, Le Voyageur was re-interpreted 25 years later with Dantec in the album Le Pli.

Feel free to download his records, he fully endorses it in this interview – “Go ahead and loot!”.

Of course, D+G inspired the name of hugely important German experimental electronica label Mille Plateaux, who put out some of the earliest and best glitch/microhouse records around, Microstoria and the classic three ‘Clicks and Cuts’ compilations as well as stuff by Kid 606, Gas and Alec Empire. They too had their own tribute, the 1998 compilation album ‘In Memoriam Gilles Deleuze‘ , featuring tracks from Oval, Mouse on Mars, DJ Spooky and Scanner, as well as the man himself.

Update:

Download one of the Heldon tracks featuring Giles Deleuze, ‘Ouais Marchais, Mieux Qu’en 68 [ex- 'le Voyageur']‘.
Download two PDF files of interviews between Deleuze and Richard Pinhas ‘On Music’ and ‘Metal, Metallurgy, Music, Husserl, Simondon’.

23 Responses leave one →
  1. 2007 April 3

    Alex, thanks for this.

    I actually really like this stuff…a LOT. The Deleuze vocals aren’t all that scary to me. I think the French language can seem scary to some English-speakers when spoken a certain way…and this is definitely one of those modes, but with the flange on his vocals it adds an electronic tinge to his voice (flange has that mettalic kind of sound where the regen and depth start to sound robotic when interacting the right way), an almost inhuman, perhaps animal-like quality to his voice. The vocal is sort of on this boundary-line between the human voice and the electronics surrounding it…fantastic. Also, the repetition within the music is not at all a kind of droning Dionysian drum-beat–as certain theologians seem to think of Deleuze…cough, cough, DB Hart–but, really, an infinite variation and depth, never exhausted. This is just really good stuff. Thanks for linking to this.

  2. 2007 April 3

    Alex, one quick question. Do you know what I need to do to download some of the music. On the website, it has linked ram files but they’re just data files. I can’t seem to find the real files. Any help?

  3. 2007 April 3

    Which music do you mean? The ones on the Deleuze journal-like site or the others.

  4. 2007 April 4

    Oh, ok. You said, “Feel free to download his records,” and I thought you meant that more specifically in relation to this site (or that you knew somewhere specific free downloads could be found). But, yeah, I followed a link on the Deleuze journal site to the Richard Pinhas/Heldon Cuneiform site. It has these Ram links next to each album, but they’re not to real media links, just to data files (not really sure why they’re there and hyper-linked). Anyways, thanks.

  5. 2007 April 4

    Dave,

    You need to learn how to use torrents. That’s how you can download the album. Go to google and look up “utorrent” download the small file and then pick an album name and type it in with “torrent” next to it. That should pull up a few websites hosting the torrent. From there follow directions.

  6. 2007 April 4

    Anthony,

    Yeah, I’ve used torrents in the past, but they’re too hard to actually listen to and burn to CD–too much encryption and conversion required. But, I got some really good stuff doing that, so I just might again.

  7. 2007 April 4

    I’ve uploaded one of the Gilles Deleuze tracks, featuring Gilles Deleuze . I’ll try and get hold of the tribute albums in question, but I can’t find them anywhere online. But I have put in a request for them….APS said this track was “trippy”. Kind of reminds me of Slint or Enablers.

  8. 2007 April 4

    Dave,

    They should just be MP3s. Hmm…

  9. 2007 April 19

    I’ve only just downloaded this track, and I really like it. I feel a bit like I should probably know something about Deleuze before I go listening to the rest of the music mentioned (and in your more recent post) though. And oh wow, Alec Empire. Haven’t listened to him in a while.
    Completley irrelevantly but I’m researching it at the moment: what do you know about the Discovery Institute and Biologic Institute?

  10. 2007 April 19

    I don’t think the Deleuze music, apart from the title references and various occasional samples, really resembles his philosophy as such, but then again, I don’t know that much about him. Anthony is the man to ask. Alec Empire is cool. Other than that track today, I haven’t listened to him in a while either. “THE PATH OF DESTRUCTION!!!!!”. He also did a tribute album to Miles Davis and another one that covers Debussy and other impressionistic French types.

    I just googled them, and they are clearly intelligent design wackos with a bad theology and an even worse science. I wouldn’t bother if I were you – it’ll make you too mad! One of our guys is publishing a book on Evolution and its relation to Theology which will blow these guys away. Michael Ruse is the only evo-biologist who has written a decent, non-polemic critique of these fools, that doesn’t alienate religious people or make them into idiots like Dawkins does. If anything, there is a critique to be made of Darwinism, but its not here: its in the scientific weakness of many of the propositions of evolutionary psychology and the general inappopriate ontologising of Darwinism into all spheres of life – political and otherwise, which seems loaded and ideological.

  11. 2007 April 19

    In fact, Dawkins and the ID lot make the same mistake – science is the only path to big t Truth. Behe is one of the main ID types and he is a Catholic and should know better. There is a great video by some other Catholic scientist floating around Youtube where he explains why it is all clearly bollocks.

    Anyway, Deleuze loves his biology/science metaphor so you should at least like him a bit.

  12. 2007 April 19

    I just find it very interesting that they are trying to provide evidence, in a lab, for creationism. Axe, working at Biologic, has published two papers so far (as far as I am aware) that have been used as evidence for ID and I fully intend to read them later on tonight (all nighter!) or in my break from work tomorrow. Yes, I will be reading papers as a break from reading papers. Rock and/or roll. From the abstracts, they don’t show a lot. And there’s limited evidence and: two papers? Their discoveries can be explained away by current understanding, as well. But I don’t know enough about it to get into the details yet. I don’t really know enough about bacterial mutations to get into the details either: I’m more of a straight biochemistry girl.

    New Scientist did an article on Biologic Institute recently, and no one would really talk to them (Discovery institute, who claim that Biologic is seperate, say that they are keeping their research secret to avoid the scrutiny of the scientific world. Umm….)The only person who DID talk to them was George Weber, one of the institutes 4 directors who interestingly, was forced to resign shortly afterwards. Hmmm. Odd that.

    I am trying to be constructive in my general annoyance at everything at the moment, so am writing about things that annoy me rather than just ranting . (see current post)

  13. 2007 April 19

    Also, I would like to distance myself from Evolutionary Physchology and point out that I really only know the biochemical details of evolution- I don’t go higher than the cellular level, thank you very much.
    I am currently writing a bit of my project on how the overlap of TAD (transcriptional activation domains) and degrons (target activators for destruction by the UPS pathway) show some kind of evolutionary significance because of the overlap of their functions- activator function can often signal it’s degradation. This is important. You can tell I’ve researched this one well, can’t you?

  14. 2007 April 20

    Oh dear. In Axe’s paper “Estimating the prevalence of protein sequences adopting functional enzyme folds” (Journal of Molecular Biology, vol 341, p 1295) he shows the probability of amino acids randomly forming the folds needed for protein function. It’s so low that it can’t have been by chance, therefore evolution totally didn’t happen.

    Just, no.

  15. 2007 April 20

    Yeh, there whole strategy is this:

    1. Woah this looks a bit too complicated for evolution
    2. Woah there is a gap in the data we cant explain
    3. Intelligent designer!!

    Of course, as one of my lecturers said this intelligent designer certainly aint the christian god, and moreover he said that if the ID was, he would be a god unworthy of worship.

    I cant WAIT for his book to come out.

  16. 2007 April 20

    I want to find all the papers ever cited in ID literature now. I mean, there’s nothing wrong with the actual science. It just doesn’t remotely back up ID. OR anything much, really. I don’t really understand how you can argue against evolution, but then again, I’m obviously in a position where I have access to a lot of data to back it up. Pretty much any molecular biology does, really. This coupling of transcription and degradation that I’m currently writing about (that’s a lie, I’m writing this, knitting and drinking tea) is a pretty good example. Clever cells.

  17. 2007 April 20

    Oh they don’t really argue against evolution, but say, we believe evolution, but every so often this tricky designer gets involved. Nonesense basically.

  18. 2007 April 20

    Oh, of course. I’m getting confused with creationism. I’m tired. How embaressing.
    Isn’t ID a bit of a cop out for people who don’t want to say they believe in creationism?

    It’s interesting to hear this side of the subject. All we get is ‘Evolution is great, let’s all look at how insulin is conserved across species and then make a nice tree.”

  19. 2007 April 20

    Yeh basically. It is exactly that.

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